On April 13, 2020, we were “treated” to a trio of articles in FCJ by leftist writers. These folks may not be infected by CV19, but they all share a serious case of “Trump Derangement Syndrome.” Since they are birds of a feather, let’s list their statements and run a fact check.
S] “Trump fired the Pandemic Response Team.” [Van Gorp]
A] Such a nasty lie. John Bolton had orders to streamline and reorganize the National Security Council. Senior Director of Global Health Admiral Tim Ziemer resigned in May 2018, but the pandemic response staff stayed on and continues to serve, a key part of NSC.
S] “Medicare for All would save $450 billion and 68,000 lives per year.” [ Van Gorp]
A] What a whopper. While the leftist media touts those numbers, competent experts including MIT Professor Simon Johnson estimate an increased cost of 13.5 to 47.5 TRILLION over 10 years. When did a government administrated system ever operate on budget or deliver equal results for less money? Saving lots of lives? I doubt it.
S] “ Normal wasn’t working.” [Van Gorp]
A] Really? The Free Market has created more wealth and raised more living standards than any other system. America was booming, and it will again. Socialism never works. Prove me wrong.
S] “Asian Americans are being Scapegoated for CV19.” [Buckbee]
A] Where? Big cities? No rational person would do that. China is being blamed, deservedly so. Americans are overwhelmingly decent people, not racists.
S] “ Large livestock operations mistreat animals.” [Buckbee]
A] Farmers and ranchers do the very best they can to raise animals humanely and still make a profit. Doing things the old fashioned way is fine for home use or specialized markets but the average consumer needs cheap and wholesome food. American farmers and ranchers should be congratulated for the fantastic job they do, not accused of mass criminality.
S] “Trump called the Coronavirus a Hoax!” [Buckbee, Torgrimson]
A] Even the Left leaning SNOPES called this stinker a lie and I quote, “Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax.” Excuse us if we don’t hold our breath waiting for you haters to publish a retraction.
S] “The Trump Administration’s response has been total chaos.” [Torgrimson]
A] Some things could have been done better. Is it fair to say a phony collusion with Russia investigation and an ill-advised impeachment attempt caused unfortunate distractions? I think so. But many leaders had let their guard down. Pandemic expert Dr. Anthony Fauci was on the radio on January 25 telling us the risk to Americans was “very, very low.” As late as March 11, Democrat politicians [Pelosi, Schumer, de Blasio, Cuomo] were on mass media urging citizens to gather, go to movies, attend parades in Chinatown, and pushing legislation in Congress to curtail the President’s ability to enact travel bans. But the pandemic staff [you know, the one Trump supposedly fired two years ago!] was intact and functioning. Despite Democrat opposition, Trump wisely implemented travel bans experts say saved many thousands of lives, and set up a task force that has held hospitalizations and fatalities far below projections.
Knowing what Mr. Torgrimson told us concerning his complete knowledge of the threat [“in early January, we all knew about it”], I’m positive a Torgrimson Administration would have done a much better job. Given that doctors from the United States Center for Disease Control visited Wuhan on January 8 and learned almost nothing about the outbreak, Mr. Torgrimson must have an amazing pipeline of information. A run for the White House should be in the future for him! Mr. Biden’s dementia is kicking in, the DNC is looking for options. Ms. Buckbee could run the USDA, Van Gorp would be an appropriate V.P., and I’m sure Mr. Leitzen would accept a nomination as Labor Secretary. Good luck, Comrades!
President Eisenhower once said, “Farming is easy when your plow is a pen and you are seated at a desk a thousand miles from the cornfield.” Hmmm. I wonder if being POTUS is harder then it looks, too?
God Bless America!
Jeff
Aaron Bishop says
Greetings Jeffrey
It is quite difficult to know where to begin. Lot’s of “He said, he said” arguments, as far up the chain as I dare go.
Let us just start this whole thing off with this rather true statement from our President. “Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” Pre-Candidate Trump on Nov 8, 2013
You said: “S] “Trump fired the Pandemic Response Team.” [Van Gorp]
A] Such a nasty lie. John Bolton had orders to streamline and reorganize the National Security Council. Senior Director of Global Health Admiral Tim Ziemer resigned in May 2018, but the pandemic response staff stayed on and continues to serve, a key part of NSC.”
John Bolton had orders to streamline. True. Two notables: 1. Orders from whom? Well, orders from whom is simple. Ultimately, Bolton was acting on behalf of Trump’s orders. The President didn’t specifically fire individuals, however, he certainly gave that authority to Bolton. Essentially, Bolton’s actions were signed off by the President, who is (in his words) “responsible”. And 2. Streamlining meaning what exactly? And how?
You claimed “the pandemic response staff stayed on and continues to serve, a key part of NSC”. I think it would be more accurate to say that the Pandemic Response Team was largely disbanded, but *some* members were reassigned to relevant roles, not all. The CDC team assigned in to China was particularly hard hit by this “streamlining” process. The Administration via Bolton under President Trump cut staff by more than 2/3rds in China, according to a report from Reuters. “The CDC’s China headcount has shrunk to around 14 staffers, down from approximately 47 people since President Donald Trump took office in January 2017, the documents show. The four people, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the losses included epidemiologists and other health professionals…” (Taylor, 3/25)” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-slashed-cdc-staff-inside-china-prior-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21C3N5
Indeed, it appears some of the Pandemic Response Team were reassigned and continue to work within the NCS. As in many cases, there are half-truths and misunderstandings abound.
You said: S] “Medicare for All would save $450 billion and 68,000 lives per year.” [ Van Gorp]
A] What a whopper. While the leftist media touts those numbers, competent experts including MIT Professor Simon Johnson estimate an increased cost of 13.5 to 47.5 TRILLION over 10 years. When did a government administrated system ever operate on budget or deliver equal results for less money? Saving lots of lives? I doubt it.
Let us delve into what *more* MIT Professor Simon Johnson had to say on the subject, not just his cherry-picked comments you provided. I believe this is the same source from which you retrieved your information, but it is hard to tell because you did not cite your sources in your original article.
“Johnson collaborated with Donald Berwick, who served as CMS administrator during the Obama administration, on his analysis. Johnson emphasizes that he does not work for the Warren campaign but was asked as an independent expert to review it. Berwick helped Warren formulate her Medicare for all plan, according to many media reports. Johnson has cowritten a second analysis, with Betsey Stevenson of the University of Michigan and Mark Zandi of Moody’s Analytics, that assesses Warren’s plans to raise enough revenue to properly fund Medicare for all.
The bottom line, he says, is that the revenue-raising and cost-cutting estimates in Warren’s proposal, relative to the Urban Institute’s estimates, are credible. “Every projection has to deal with some uncertainty, but we feel confident there is less here because we were evaluating very specific and plausible policy choices,” Johnson says. “The baseline government forecast of what will happen to costs under the current law is considerably more likely to be wrong on the downside—that is, in being too low—than Warren’s plan for the simple reason that in a single-payer system, you can control health care costs,” he says.” -https://www.managedcaremag.com/archives/2019/12/so-how-much-would-medicare-all-really-cost-good-question
You said: S] “Normal wasn’t working.” [Van Gorp]
A] Really? The Free Market has created more wealth and raised more living standards than any other system. America was booming, and it will again. Socialism never works. Prove me wrong.”
The Free-Market has done wonderful things for many people. However, liberals would likely ultimately contend that the Free-Market no longer exists, nor does the “Invisible Hand”. Instead, liberals would likely argue that a heavy, yet subtle hand has been pushed on the scales of economic justice to favor the wealthier comparatively more and greater over the last several decades. As I said in my previous article about the economy, such things as the Stock Market are not good indicators for how things are going for the average American. Look at what is happening now. The recent stock market rallies, even within a time when COVID-19 is claiming tens of millions of jobs in a matter of weeks, is evidence that it benefits only a fraction of people and is therefore a reflection of only a fraction of people who hold the majority of stocks.
Your obsession with Socialism is a constant source of amusement. It’s almost as if you think that most liberals and Democrats advocate for a full-blown Socialist state, instead of Capitalism to be reigned in. Remember the heavy and visible hand weighing down economic justice? What do I mean by that? Who writes the laws? I think you may find many liberals recognize that key bills are authored by large companies (with ideas to benefit themselves chiefly) and signed on by Congressmembers who likely are financial beneficiaries of the same companies come election season. The fact is, it is not a fact that the more you work the better off you’ll be in this system we have. The ideal capital meritocracy does not exist for so many as you seem to believe it does.
You said: S] “Asian Americans are being Scapegoated for CV19.” [Buckbee]
A] Where? Big cities? No rational person would do that. China is being blamed, deservedly so. Americans are overwhelmingly decent people, not racists.”
When you say “China is being blamed” what do you mean? The government? The culture? The people? I would agree that Americans are overwhelmingly good, decent people. But it does not take a vast majority to make problems for others. This means that “Asian Americans are being scapegoated for CV19” and “No rational person would do that” and “Americans are overwhelmingly decent people, not racists” can ALL be true at the same time. It is not a dichotomy.
You said: S] “Trump called the Coronavirus a Hoax!” [Buckbee, Torgrimson]
A] Even the Left leaning SNOPES called this stinker a lie and I quote, “Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax.” Excuse us if we don’t hold our breath waiting for you haters to publish a retraction.”
Actually, SNOPES called this a Mixture, not a “lie” (which I do not believe is even a categorical conclusion they provide). https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
And you quoted them wrong. I could wager a guess as to why, but I won’t. What you said SNOPES said was: “Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax” what SNOPES actually said was: “*Despite creating some confusion with his remarks,* Trump did not call the coronavirus *itself* a hoax.” And therein lies the confusion, likely from the authors you were responding to, and the media itself that reported such. This is what President Trump actually said at the Feb 28th rally: -Feb 28th https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-charleston-south-carolina-rally-transcript-february-28-2020
So, it’s clear to see that President Trump wasn’t clear about what he meant. But, to his credit, he did clarify the next day. – Feb 29th Press Conference: https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-press-conference-white-house-coronavirus-february-29-2020
And that is quite understandable. The problem is, there was quite a bit of time between the original statement and the clarification. Time where, due to the sincerely ambiguous remarks, the American public watching could reach their own conclusions as to what the President meant. I think something that most Republicans and Democrats alike can agree on is that President Trump is not a great orator. Hence the confusion and continue circulation of this belief. Naturally, some people on the left will likely believe Trump meant the virus itself, but backpedaled when advised to, something that is certainly not uncommon in his tactics.
You said: “S] “The Trump Administration’s response has been total chaos.” [Torgrimson]
A] Some things could have been done better. Is it fair to say a phony collusion with Russia investigation and an ill-advised impeachment attempt caused unfortunate distractions? I think so. But many leaders had let their guard down. Pandemic expert Dr. Anthony Fauci was on the radio on January 25 telling us the risk to Americans was “very, very low.” As late as March 11, Democrat politicians [Pelosi, Schumer, de Blasio, Cuomo] were on mass media urging citizens to gather, go to movies, attend parades in Chinatown, and pushing legislation in Congress to curtail the President’s ability to enact travel bans. But the pandemic staff [you know, the one Trump supposedly fired two years ago!] was intact and functioning. Despite Democrat opposition, Trump wisely implemented travel bans experts say saved many thousands of lives, and set up a task force that has held hospitalizations and fatalities far below projections.”
No. It is not fair to say that. What were the President’s responsibilities that were distracting him from this? And what did the President do during the month of February after this ended?
Dr. Anthony Fauci CDC Director Redfield were: “pretty certain that this was not transmitted human to human” given what the information coming out of China suggested in January.
As for other officials encouraging people to go out and about, my question for you is, what were their resources compared to those of the President’s? Were they right? No. They were wrong. But President Trump did not provide any federal guidelines for coronavirus concerns. Bill de Blasio’s comments about going out “If you’re under 50 & healthy” should include the context that the knowledge of how COVID19 may spread before symptoms show up wasn’t available yet. Even now: “Some reports have indicated that people with no symptoms can transmit the virus. It is not yet known how often it happens. WHO is assessing ongoing research on the topic and will continue to share updated findings” https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses.
Without the resources nor guidance from the Federal Government, mistakes by States and State Officials were made. Even after March 13th, when the Administration finally made the National Emergency Declaration, it forced states to compete with not only each other, but the Federal Government for acquiring the much anticipatedly needed medical equipment.
As far as I can tell, Congress’ push for the No Ban Act took place on March 11th, which had by far most of the co-signatures *before* the Coronavirus was even detected in China (meaning it predates all of this and wasn’t a response to the travel ban from China): https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2214/cosponsors?searchResultViewType=expanded&KWICView=false
Additionally, a key point here is that roughly 40,000 people still came to America from China after this travel ban from China was enacted. Clearly, that was enough for the virus to infect more Americans than Chinese.
Let us end with some thoughts. Crimson Contagion was a simulation designed to show U.S. blind spots. This was conducted last year. Also, how often has President Trump called upon the reduction of CDC funds (which Congress denied)? Finally, what do you think of the people marching in state capitals, even going so far as to block ambulances?
Vicki Scroggings says
so basically you are one of the trump haters too. my question to you is who will pay this revenue, that you talk about, that will pay for everyone (even Illegals?) to receive medicare , …just where is this money coming from….more taxes or are the people that vote for this crazy idea going to pay the revenue that will be needed. I keep hearing about free this and free that and helping illegals to adjust to a new way of life here after the walls come down and no one is taken away…oh but there is more on this, more judges and lawyers will be hired to get these new families that are given freedom to just cross over the board and we will help them to be here legally faster. seem like our way of life and freedom will be greatly changed by the taxes that we will pay to make this happen…sounds like socialism to me. oh and free health care for all. you see to have all the answers ….I will be waiting.
Anonymous says
this comment was intended for Arron Bishop. Jeff I found your “FACT CHECKING THE HATERS” to be very refreshing. thank you Vicki
Herbert Panko says
Jeff, Your form of government eliminates social security, medicare, medicaid, state and federal aid to education, government assistance to struggling small businesses, all federal aid for health insurance, assistance to poverty-stricken families with suffering indigent children, all government aid to municipalities and on and on.
You Trumpers are amazingly ignorant and heartless.
Herb Panko
Jeffrey Erding says
@ Herb Panko, everyone is ignorant, just about different subjects. You, however, are quite remarkable for your wide ranging lack of knowledge and your ability to be simultaneously nasty and insulting.
Go to mngop/platform. You will find a copy of the platform of the Republican party of Minnesota. Kindly note that not one of the items you just listed as priorities are in the platform. Zero. Which incidentally is about the same amount of respect and credibility any statement made by you deserves. Zero.
Despite that, I urge you to keep engaged and submit more commentaries. It’s important for citizens to see first hand how hateful, vindictive, and dishonest you Socialists are. No one in their right mind should want people like you running America.
Kim Wentworth says
Off your meds again I see, too bad.
Greg Rendahl says
Jeff, for some reason the “reply” button was gone. Anyway, yes, of course virtually no one paid 91% on their income taxes because there are ALWAYS deductions. If memory serves me right, I believe the top earners paid around 67%. Now days there are so many deductions that some wealthy outfits and individuals pay very little or even get paid by the government.
Julie says
Jeff,
Keep up the great work of disproving all these liberal’s talking points and being entertaining as well! It’s so refreshing to hear from someone who has some common sense! Thank you for sharing your wisdom and facts; something Democrats know nothing about.
Aaron Bishop says
Greetings Julie,
I also (generally) enjoy reading Jeffrey Erding’s articles, although I think for a different reason. They help provide me with insight as to how people who think very differently than me interpret common information. Everyone’s got a dose of common sense, to be sure, and we need that! But, sometimes we need more than common sense, and everyone is capable of that too, but it takes a little more effort and is often more harshly critiqued or dismissed as “elitist” or “educated” or “academic” or some other word that has somehow turned dirty.
As for Jeffrey sharing is “facts”, that is the part I truly enjoy too. I learn very much because of Jeffrey, but I don’t get the facts from him so much as I research the facts he claims to provide. Sometimes they are full and true (which is great!). But other times, they are partial and not as honestly so (which is not so great). For example, his quotation from SNOPES was not full, and the impartiality of it effectually changed the concluding tune which he attempted to sing. The SNOPES conclusion itself was not in sync with Jeff Erding’s claims, even though it’s right there in plain view. I have numerous times seem him manipulate the conclusions of others to better fit his pre-conceived notions (which we all have). Whether this is done consciously or not, I cannot say. I won’t ever call Jeffrey a liar, nor anybody for that matter. But this doesn’t mean I can’t provide further detail to assist with painting a more full picture that even Jeffrey Erding can’t ignore (even if he stops replying to my comments on his posts). He rarely cites his sources openly and honestly, but that will not deter me from fact-checking his own “fact-checking”.
Regardless, I wish you are well.
Kim Wentworth says
You backing your info from snopes.com shows a major flaw in your argument. I brought this up about a year ago. You might as well back your points up from NPR news
Aaron Bishop says
Greetings Kim,
I’m not backing my point with SNOPES. If you reread what I wrote to Jeff, you may see that I was using *his, Jeff’s* SNOPES source to illustrate that he, Jeff, mischaracterized both the quotation and the conclusion itself. Again, Jeff used the SNOPES as a source. I merely corrected what SNOPES said about it. I didn’t give credence to the conclusion from SNOPES, but rather pointed out Jeff’s flagrant disregard for accurately portraying the information from his own sources.
Cheers.
Aaron Bishop says
Additionally, if you would ever like to discuss what liberals/progressives/Democrats really stand for, please don’t hesitate to ask.
Cheers!
Greg Rendahl says
Jeff, you made a valient effort to make your hero, Trump, look like slightly less of a dolt. To be very clear, Trump’s rambling rant did say that the coronavirus THREAT was a Democratic hoax. US intelligence warned Trump in January, and later that month Trump’s daily briefings were mostly about the virus. In early March Trump lied to Americans scores of times about the virus. He even said, “Anybody that wants a test can get a test.” On March 15 Trump said we have tremendous control of the virus. Trump’s “travel ban” still allowed 40,000 people to fly here directly from China after the “ban.” 65% think Trump has done a poor job with the coronavirus. Are 35% of Americans totally unaware or do they get their news from Fox and Facebook? You said, “Socialism never works.” Nearly all of Europe proves you wrong. Here, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid work and they could work even better if we wanted a more just society.
Jeffrey Kilian Erding says
@ Mr. Rendahl, You are nothing if not consistent….frequently wrong but NEVER in doubt! No sign of a reputable source, always taking the word of the biased MSM despite the fact they have been untruthful and inaccurate on every single issue that matters for the last 5 years. Some people, you included, just never get sick of being wrong.
But thank you for giving me the opportunity to expand on the subject by rolling out a timeline that proves just how despicable and unprepared the Democrat Socialist mob really was, and how hypocritical all of you are. There was not room to include it in my commentary, thanks for your help in getting it out there!
9/24/19 Pelosi starts impeachment inquiry. 5 months of national paralysis, a ridiculous distraction.
Nov. 2019, First know cv19 cases in Wuhan.
Early Dec., 2019. Chinese authorities silence Chinese doctors who had tried to issue warnings.
12/31/19 W.H.O. downplays the danger after they learn of a viral outbreak in China.
1/7/20 Scientists in China identify the virus.
1/8/20 Medical experts from the U.S. Center for Disease Control visit Wuhan, Chinese authorities stonewall.
1/11/20 First known fatality from virus in China.
1/13/20 First reported case outside China reported in Thailand.
1/20/20 First reported case in USA, Snohomish, Washington.
1/23/20 Chinese authorities lock down Wuhan.
1/25/20 Dr. Anthony Fauci interviewed on national radio, states , ” Danger to USA very, very low.”
1/30/20 W.H.O. declares a public health emergency.
1/31/20 Mr. Trump announces Chinese travel ban, countless lives saved. Democrats howl in protest.
2/2/20 Democrat leaders [ Schumer, Pelosi, Biden, et al,] blast travel bans as ” hysterical xenophobia, ineffective fear mongering, cruel, Un-American.”
2/2/20 NY gov. Cuomo and NY commissioner Barbot state on television, ” Ignore the Coronavirus. No threat to people under 50. Continue mass transit use, normal gatherings, ” Barbot on 2/7: ” No risk from being in a crowd.”
2/4/20 State of the Union Speech. Trump mentions Administration is concerned and tracking a possible dangerous virus from China. Pelosi tears up the pages of the speech in a childish tantrum.
2/5/20 Senate acquits Mr. Trump of both articles of impeachment. .
2/7/20 Chinese Dr. Li Wenliang,who attempted to issue warnings, dies. The virus or another cause?
2/10/20 NY Mayor De Blasio states ” Ignore the Coronavirus. No threat to those under 50!”
2/26/20 Nancy Pelosi says ignore the virus. ” I urge people to get out and visit our city. Please visit, including Chinatown. It’s perfectly safe!”
3/3/20 Mayor De Blasio. ” Get out on the town! Attend theater, go to movies! Use the subway!”
3/10/20 Trump announces European travel ban. Democrat heads explode!
3/11/20 Democrat members of Congress introduce legislation to stop POTUS’s ability to enforce travel bans.
3/11/20 Schumer and Pelosi blast POTUS at joint news conference, announce new Impeachment Inquiry citing inaction by President.
And so on and so on. Even though we should be used to it, the duplicity, dishonesty, and hypocrisy displayed by Democrat thugs is still stunning.
Regarding Mr. Rendahl’s ridiculous claim of success of Socialist nations, see my previous commentary in FCJ titled” Sweden: Socialist Utopia? ” or go to Freetochoose.tv and watch the documentary by famous Swedish economist Johan Nordberg.
Mr. Rendahl, please never stop writing. You are, as a poster child for the misinformed and poorly sourced, an absolute pleasure to debate. Every opportunity to poke holes in the bag of hot air that composes the position of people brainwashed by the main stream media is like manna from heaven! Thank you so much!
Ken says
Thank you for your wise words.
Ken says
Is there any other TRUMP lovers out there, lets here from you!
Greg Rendahl says
Jeff, I noticed you posted very little concerning pronouncements in March while Trump was ranting about how wonderful everything was here in the USA. The Trump travel ban legislation was introduced one year ago. Trump’s travel bans are sometimes aimed at Muslims and other minorities, and not because of a viral threat. Trump’s European ban conveniently left out the United Kingdom so that people could Travel to his golf courses. Trump is so obviously a white supremacist who only cares about how he is feeling at the moment. Your only “reputable source”?? was the “famous Swedish economist Johan Nordberg.” But, guess what, he is NOT an economist. Don’t you ever think that a society such as ours where 3 people hold as much wealth as 150 million Americans is insane? There are millions of Americans working checkout counters and stocking food we need and they get paid a rather measly amount for putting their lives on the line. There are not enough high paying jobs out there and it is criminal that our society puts up with such inequality and poor health care for so many. I notice you “God bless” a lot, but I do not think you ever seriously think of Jesus.
Jeffrey Erding says
@ Mr Rendahl, Aaaaand there we have it ladies and gentlemen, a fool proof solution from
“ROBIN HOOD RENDAHL” with his merry band of Socialist Outlaws….. Leitzen, Van Gorp, Buckbee, and Friar Torgrimson. Poised to dash from the forest, rob from the rich, and give to the poor. Why should anyone have to aquire a good paying, marketable skill to make money when all we have to do is put the Socialists in charge! They will just confiscate excess funds from rich people, distributing to those who deserve it more.
How will it be decided who deserves more? Oh, not to worry, it will all be done perfectly. Just because Socialism has always been a miserable failure and the free market has done more to benefit mankind then any other system in history, let’s not let reality and sanity discourage us from giving the Democrat Socialists the ability to control every aspect of American life. Socialism is bound to work this time.
Greg Rendahl says
Jeff, you mentioned Eisenhower in your original post. He was President when we had a 91% top tax rate and our nation did well. It was especially important to have a high rate at that time because our nation had huge debt from WW2. We now have a high debt load and it will get much, much worse. Government spending is our only way to get out of the mess we are in. As things eventually get better, taxes will have to rise. At that time, most patriotic Americans will recognize the need to ease down the debt load, and it will NOT be time to cut the socialism that we do have: Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Here’s an idea for you: Skip Hannity and Rush, etc. and do some study on most or all the first world nations that have a great deal more socialism than we do. Who knows, you might learn something.g
Jeffrey Erding says
@ Mr. Rendahl, please take your own advice when doing research.
The top tier effective tax rates were never anywhere near 91%. Allowable deductions were available that prevented anyone from paying even close to that rate. But of course since all people like you ever do is latch on to the pronouncements of the Rachel Madows of the world, you could not be expected to know that.
Since you seem primed to debate the relative accuracy of information sources, here’s your homework assignment: name me something Hannity has gotten wrong, as opposed to the MSM, who are ALWAYS wrong. I’m waiting.
JezMyOpinion says
Agreed 100%!
Sonia says
great job, Jeff.
Gatekeeper says
This disease was created in a Chinese lab with help from others to take down President Trump. The Russian investigation did not work , or the impeachment, if this does not work. what’s next. THINKABOUTITNEWS.COM
God says
You are embarrassing.
Gatekeeper says
We now know what was next, riots